HUMAN SPACE part ll

[usarender]

[P.C.]

usarender -- the way you percive "space" is as how an architecture writer , a journalist at an architecture magazin think about architecture.
For an architect "space" is not like you emagine architects realise it -- I would think, most architects will not reconise your words to describe their accumulation of space, when they count their windows.

[usarender]

Ask Arthur Erickson what he thinks about space then.

[P.C.]

Why --- maybe you don't have an answer yourself, others maybe don't need anyone, to ask about that.

[usarender]

No, it is that the topic on Arthur Erickson answers this question well, so we don't need a "bleeding" of these discussions across topics. I have posted my comments there and need not to post them again here.

[usarender]

As I have posted elsewhere P.C. -->>

Translating a sketch into the real thing is not the same process as a spatial reference in architecture. Design itself must address the issue of space in a relevant way, as demonstrated. To often in modern design, as shown in the Arthur Erickson speech, space is not referred to at all, and the Anthromorphic view of man brings us the incredible opportunity now to address space in a new unique way, as shown. So to say spatial reference and addressing different type of spatial framing is irrelevant to architecture is to only strengthen the trend that Mr. Erickson has criticized. It can be seen that those interested merely in structural truth should attempt to discredit this concern, moreover, there is an infinity of spatial statements we can make as architects, as demonstrated. Experiencing space is just as much a part of experiencing architecture as is the integrity of it's structure. It is not a simple arrangement of bricks into a pattern that will make a spatial statement, nor will the clever contriving of window layout or door placement. It is not the cunning use of colors or the irreverent inclination towards anarchy of space and form that will save us from the architectural voids of modern civilization. It is the interplay of light and form within a relevant spatial experience that is being proposed. This new play on space can bring an infinity of new ways to experience space in architecture, as previously demonstrated.

Thus, an astute arrangement of structural language cannot replace the inherent beauty of a well elaborated spatial arrangement in architecture.

Neither can a silly talk with Ouroboros replace an adequately elaborated statement on the language of our architectural thought.

A broader language need not speak with the dead cold objects of adoration, but rather communicates the relationship one can have with this universal intelligence.

The true language of design proceeds from within the architectural mind to create a new world of ideas.

[birgco]

This subject of space/mass is obviously a bit confusing and controversial so I thought the following dialogue would clear up the whole argument.....

(RT) This room, even this whole house many not be here in a hundred years, but the time machine occupies the same space that it did a moment before it went off on its journey.

(SC) Well, if it is occupying the same space, why can't I see it?

(RT) You must remember the space you are putting your hand through is today's space. You can't put your hand into the space of tomorrow.

(SC) Space is space, it doesn't change. The same space that is here now should be here in a hundred or even a thousand years.

(RT) No, time changes space.

Rod Taylor and Sebastian Cabot; 1960 Sci Fi classic, The Time Machine.

Now, I trust this will settle all arguments and there will be no more confusion on this issue.

[usarender]

In your vision of this sci-fy story, how does time change space?

[P.C.]

Space is not changed by time, you do not change space with architecture. If a house are there for some time, then space will be the same space before the house is build as after the house are gone.
The house is not space if it was it would be there allway's it's not. Space is not the house either , space is where a house can be situated in time.

[usarender]

The Sinking Boat of Modern Science


The proliferation of concepts like the neutron stars, the black holes, the gravitational waves, the vacuum interactions and quarks—Dr. Philips’ ESP of Quarks is not the final word on Occult Chemistry and we must always have an open mind—are the results of frantic attempts to save the sinking boat of modern science. Unfortunately, it is not recognized that all of these are pure speculations and are never observed.

Liquid Matter, Liquid Universe

According to the Reciprocal System, the liquid state of matter is reached when atomic cohesion is overcome in one of the dimensions by thermal motion, and the gaseous state is the result of overcoming cohesion in all three dimensions. Thus, the state of matter (solid, liquid, or gaseous) is shown to be the result of the state of the individual atom (or unit). Experiments on the melting point of solutions amply support this. This is an insight of great significance from the occultist’s point of view. The liquid state, for example, is regarded by modern science as a characteristic of the aggregate and not of the individual unit. In such a view, therefore, to speak of a‘liquid molecule’, for example, is absolutely meaningless, since liquid state is regarded as the lack of long-range order in the arrangement of the individual molecules, and obviously order, or lack of it, refers to the relative arrangement of the individuals and is a group property and does not apply to a single unit by itself. However, from a study of the work of Leadbeater and Annie Besant on Occult Chemistry, we do get the impression that the change of state of matter is marked by the change in the condition of the individual unit (OC, see especially the section on Catalysis and Crystallization). The elucidation of the physical states of matter can be classed as outstanding achievement number six of the Reciprocal System.

We have then traced the development of the first general physical theory, called the Reciprocal System, and shown that every aspect of the physical universe can be derived, without any ad hoc assumptions from occasion to occasion, from its fundamental concept, namely that the physical universe consists of units of motion. We have examined space and time, the phenomena of radiation, matter and gravitation, electricity and magnetism, from the point of view of this new basic concept.

Space and Time

The author points out that space and time are the most fundamental concepts, the correct understanding of whose nature and characteristics should precede any theoretical development. Basing solely on what is revealed in direct observation--and not on any interpretation--the following can be said of them as being true in the local environment:

-Space is three-dimensional, homogeneous, and isotropic.
-Time progresses uniformly and (perhaps only locally) unidirectionally.
-The scalar relation between space and time is reciprocal (that is, speed = space / time), and this relation constitutes motion. (NL, page 35)

He takes pains to clarify the meaning of ‘dimension’ and that time has no dimension in space. “...time enters into the mathematics of the physical processes... as a scalar quantity. From this the physicists have jumped to the conclusion that time is one-dimensional. The point that the physicists have overlooked is that ‘direction’ in the context of physical processes which are represented by vectorial equations in present day physics always means ‘direction in space’.” (NL, page 33) Then he reminds us that, “...no matter how many dimensions it may have, time has no direction in space... There is nothing in the role which time plays in the equations of motion to indicate specifically that time has more than one dimension.

In view of the symmetry between space and time, it turns out that any property of one of these is also the property of the other. More specifically, this leads us to the conclusions that time is also three-dimensional and that space too progresses like time.

It is important to clearly understand the nature of the scalar motion. It is either outward from all other locations, or inward toward all other locations. A scalar motion has no inherent direction, unlike the motions of our everyday experience. As an example, consider an expanding balloon. The different points on the surface of such a balloon move outward from each other. The movement of any particular point, as far as the balloon itself is concerned, has no inherent direction--its motion is scalar; simply away from all other points. The direction is acquired only if the balloon is related to a stationary reference frame like the room in which it is situated.
In the light of the above we must revise our view of “running of time” as a unidirectional flow. It is, rather, a scalar progression, that is, “...each location in time is continually moving outward away from all other locations in time.” (NL, page 82)

As I stated elsewhere, altering the energy states of matter allows us to produce an equivalent time-space distortion!

[P.C.]

Nothing of this make any sense ---

There are no audience , no one even care to answer .

[usarender]

[P.C.]

You first, unprove it, gern with some calculations please.

[usarender]

The burden of proof rests on you pc. You designed it. I say it doesn't work and sheet metal will not withstand such high structural loads. It does not even come close to steel girders and columns.

This is my proposition --

3dh sheet metal profiles to not have the strength of steel girders and columns.

My many other points have been made as well, to prove 3dh is not such a great system, after all.

[birgco]

Space/Mass/Time

Rod Taylor and Sebastian Cabot continued....


(RT) Time changes space.

(SB) B'ah.

(RT) Look, this flat ground we are standing on could have been at the bottom of the sea a million years ago, and a million years from now, it could be the interior of a huge mountain.

(SB) Alright, alright, suppose what you say is true, what do you expect us to do with such a contraption.

(RT) Contraption? Well, for my part I intend to take a journey into the future......