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P.C. millennium club
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 2163 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I see it in anpther way, -- ot's great these inbelivable things exist, that things hand together the way it do , but of the infinity of universe, it is acturly most, that confirm without a doing, is there for no one in infinity to realise, it's like our math. that math. that consist so small a fragment cpmpared possible chaos , chaos that definaly both weight and fill out what is most of the universe and yet science prove, that in the atom the distance in factors, are as how the planets curkumstance the sun , so when that micro filmanent of what we call solid matter, in it's doing consist of nearly nothing while solid matters atoms in volumes and distances mirror very well our solar system, and adding the emty space between astronomaly distant solar systems, this order, that director seem very very small , esp. when everything consist of so much nothing. |
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usarender millennium club
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: grains of sand |
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Hello,
Am not sure I understood all your points, but some interesting issues pointed out comparing atoms structure to how planets and stars are placed in relation to each other.
Now the most interesting of the universe is that most of what exists is not what we can see or sense or even measure with scientific instruments. It exists in another dimension yet is as much a part of you and me as the physical world around us. In energy, we have elements much smaller then an electron that scientists know are there but can't exactly define. Then there are the mysteries of ID and his wonderful personality that is mirrored in the wonderful universe. At times this intelligence comes to directly bring us into an experience greater then anyone can imagine. This is the most profound mystery of all. We as insignificant grains of sand in a universe of sand yet we in some way are so significant to this ID. |
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P.C. millennium club
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I think it is allready difficult, just the major cultural differences there must be on this fora. When I talk . For me the religious entrance to architecture is a very ambitious angle , that aswell would in architecture bring what is needed, still what realy bring it, in architecture , must also be the most real, -- if new jobs is what is called for, then advanced CAD and production, are better than building the wonder in bricks , --- The call for the new architecture, proberly are founded on a positive wish for the right solution, in architecture, that easily be to jettison, jettison a lot of the thousands of various bits and pieces, that bring up a house, and replace it all, or nearly all of it, atleast most of it and not just the most but the most expensive of it.
Then why go thru with things like that, if it wasn't for the jobs, the CAD and digital production, and the beautifull new architecture it can bring. |
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usarender millennium club
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: The wonderful experience of ID |
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| Well, I speak from an experiential point of view, not a religious or theoretical point of view. It is not based on culture, but on experience. Just as experiencing architecture is valid, experiencing this ID'r is just as significant and meaningful to the human experience. It is the many who are called to a greater meaning of experience, but the few who find it. Thus, the road to meaningful ID experience becomes very narrow, based on one being either open or closed to the greater touch of this intelligence. My own personal experience last night broke a new revolution to the way I view this person. Now I see it depends not entirely on our choice, but on a manifestation that comes to us without merit, but the kindness of the bestower. Just as in a recent movie out there, where the guy is able to look into his future, this ID gave me a glimpse of what was to come, as I, in my lack of understanding did not know where my feet stood until the grounds of my understanding where shaken and I was able to awaken to this universal reality and person in a new way. For this reason I am incredibly grateful, as now I see a new meaning to the existence of all intelligence. It is but a mirror of something much larger that few dare to understand. But it is real and personal and like me and you. This ID'r is trillions of times more intelligent then any computer we can create and we are but minute grains of sand in a universe of sand, yet somehow this ID'r cares for us and from that point of view, there is no past present or future, as all are being experienced at the same time. Just as in the movie, where the man is able to change his future by experiencing it before it happens, this chance was mysteriously revealed to me in a brilliant way. I can say my future is not the same as a result of this insight that was given. I am the most grateful for it and only do not explain here in further detail as many would not understand. Just as your own experience of lights in zig zag pattern can not be described in words, so the same, if I were to attempt to describe, many would not understand. This is the reason to look at the data I posted on ID. If my future had not been different, I would not be here to see the result or the comments on those posts, as my existence would be completely different in a short time, but that was changed. So now I am thankful for this and that I am here and can continue to enjoy this wonderful experience of living. I am thankful that a second chance was given to me, as if it had been different, no longer would I see these posts at some point in this universe of existence. My life will never be the same anymore. I mark it in my book and now it is in the ID book. I have so to speak found my meaning, an existential experience of purpose. |
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P.C. millennium club
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 2163 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Yes but please reconsider what I say about differences, I guess that even narrowing the objectives into that of archirecture ,do put together very, very much indeed , persons, oppinions ,backgrounds ,angle , age, posision contry, culture everything, --- so offcaurse a house will "consist" of many and very different things, --- all from the participiant's urge to explain their particular engagement.
Mune are clear as usealy, Im'e here to deliver the unique new building method, the one that work with computers, Also I agrea to a cirtain extents with you, about the greatness we are not allowed to see thru , still I se no better way to one day be able to do just that, also I can not see any challance for religion in more knowleage, contraverse I am sure that the most beautifull house that would be possible today, would be build with 3dh.
Please note I talk about the volume , not it's walls or core, that's not nessery with this new architecture, where shell and core is relised into building Structure. Temember the shaddow would not be there, without the structure shadowed and the light, together they paint the shaddow , you can not omit the light or the structure , without any of these no shaddow. |
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usarender millennium club
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: San Diego, Ca
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: Structure, volume light and meaning |
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Yes, we are so to speak the structure and the light comes from without and gives a meaning or "volume" to this structure of our experience.
In the same way, the volume of our architecture can be better understood by this interplay of light on the structural and shell elements, thus creating a localized spatial definition to our experience of space. On, in your viewpoint, a local revelation of structural truth and liberation by the power of the computer application. |
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P.C. millennium club
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 2163 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| No -- the computer application only help there, where we need a structural mass for those condisions --- that can be mase trivial automated in most cases , where strength and avaibility of the building compoments are the issue, or formed with the design tools avaible for said method that aswell as the automated thick brick wall replacement, also offer full avaibility , full support for any odd suggestion , --- the computer do nothing but what it is told, also when you allow it more flexible rules, it is still you who design, ---- sorry but sometimes you can get so tired of answering the same , basicly same and same questions, questions that also force you to explain what is not realised, it's like there are no end to it ; this is not different than how it was used to be, but it simply is so much better even it is different, and it is no bad thing it is different, the computer to, is different, then how can the tools with it not be different. |
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: AI and ID |
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In architecture we need a new system of AI capable of creating a human computer interface, where the power of the human mind and it's reflection of ID guides the ultimate design of AI by establishing the set of "DNA architectural sequences" that will produce the proper result when fed into the AI system.
This systematics will allow for the expansion of architectural laboratories, where the human interface interacts with the AI and the second learns the proper set of " DNA" architectural sequences needed to solve particular problems, and can thus instantaneously, so to speak, display an infinity of results in the physical dimension of modeled space. This now is the ultimate design tool, one that allows for the fine-tuning and progression of the system based on the human interface interaction in a never ending progressive experience. The proposal is for maintaining the human interface in these AI systems as a permanent dialog. Thus, by speaking of an intent, and by the selection of desired DNA architectural sequences, the designer thus will be able to guide the initial directives for the AI system to propose the alternatives. In turn, the dialog continues and the design evolves to the likes of the intelligence of the designer, who must thus maintain control of the system. In sequential experiences, this learning experience can lead to stream-lined communication platforms, where entire sequences of DNA architectural encoding can simply be selected by choosing pre-selected images which contain the directives for those previous sequences of decisions. Also, verbal dialogs can just as much program the directives in the same way as command or key directives. Thus, a whole new range of interface options will result and a whole new way of AI design has been established. |
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P.C. millennium club
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: |
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That is solved as soon as you are capable of generating and fabricating the actural framework , --- the process you describe is the top-down attitude that leave the individual problems to be solved underway , my attitude is different, as nomatter how you want to control the ptojecting, then in the end it all depend on maneaging the fabrication and assembly of the projected item.
3dh do that in perfection. --- building from that, that the in fact vorse problem are solved , will yield a different result than you think at now, it's better to challance your expertations than change the fabrication to fit to that, a lot of leaking buildings these day's prove my point. |
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Antisthenes

Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 688 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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hahahahaha _________________ The most necessary/useful piece of learning is that which unlearns what is untrue: 'evil'
may be acquired, Happiness through virtue which is based on knowledge!/? |
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: A New Era of Technological Innovation |
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This is not a question of "if" we can produce this, but "when" we will do it.
We are intelligent, we are global, we are connected, we are strong, we have the power to usher in a new era of technological innovation, inventions, systems and methods unheard of. This is a journey upwards and there is no stopping this force.
Here we define the new realities of our experience, we shape the new forms that will define the future, we compose the new structures to transport man to space, we create the new framework for the universal extension of man into space, we envision and project a new reality of global innovation and systems so strong they will usher us into a new era of technological innovation and achievement. This is just the beginning.
Welcome to the journey.
Project Liquid Universe |
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P.C. millennium club
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Case you understand 3dh I can give a clue about this --- you see we allready has the fabrication , the huge n.c. cutters to cut whatever, huge steel pieces are cut under water ensuring no warping or bending of the sheet cut, caursed by heat --- yet we stay with the old methods we put the things together the same old way, we rather fight a rigid "H" beam into a curve it was newer ment for , with great effords and expenses, instead of generating an easy 3dh framework that ontop gurantie 100 pct. measures then we rather accept the wrongs and expansion risks treading the steel profile as was it a tree cut into lumber , lumber that has to be steam bended --- reson we don't is in our minds, in how we percive the build works, those we emagine today, as we did a hundred years ago. |
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:02 am Post subject: The Power of Connectivity |
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| Don't know about 3dh, but this new thinking calls for a union of effort, of talent, of intense energy and thought and this has the capacity to create an incredible laboratory of architecture and AI, where our continuous experiment has the power to bring a revolution to these forums and to the world. The problem is many are blinded by myopia or the same dead end thinking, regurgitating the same old 7 and 6. |
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Antisthenes

Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 688 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Both of you are talking to yourselves in horrible broken English about silly go nowhere topics me thinks.
It's nice to see yourself type, but remember other people are watching and can hardly read this as it is nonsensical. _________________ The most necessary/useful piece of learning is that which unlearns what is untrue: 'evil'
may be acquired, Happiness through virtue which is based on knowledge!/? |
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usarender millennium club
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: It All Makes Sense. |
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It all makes sense. The recent discussion on architectural history as well contains some more information on these topics. AI & ID in a new interactive human computer interface development of a system of evolving design and programmed sequences of codes that result in a laboratory of architecture -->>
AI, ID and the New Laboratory of Architecture
The only thing I do not agree with is the evolutionary analogy. Things just don't evolve from nothing. We need Intelligent Design. This is where this evolutionary mumbo jumbo fails. Now, with the human computer interface interacting constantly, we have an inbuilt controlled evolutionary process in the sense that the computer and the script evolve according to the programmed sequences. This has the power to create our new way of thinking and the programming of intelligent dna type sequences of genetic codes which leads to the laboratories of architectural experimentation and design I have been developing and already proposed on this forum! When I proposed it, most took it lightly, and some even laughed. Now they should be chocking. This is so revolutionary that it will determine a new direction for architecture literally! We are making history! Jump in the band wagon and welcome to Project Liquid Universe, and together we develop these new systems and bring forth a new way of designing of the 21 century and beyond! |
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