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usarender
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 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: The Human Mind - More Complex Then the Internet! |
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The Human Mind and the Web
Perhaps the Web as a whole is the closest analogue we have today for the brain -- with millions of nodes and connections. But today the Web is still quite a bit smaller and simpler than a human brain. The brain is also highly decentralized and it is doubtful than any centralized service could truly match its capabilities. We're not talking about a few hundred thousand linux boxes -- we're talking about hundreds of billions of parallel distributed computing elements to model all the neurons in a brain, and this number gets into the trillions if we want to model all the connections. The Web is not this big, and neither is Google.
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futuristarchitect
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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After reading all this, one can only think, "when was all this intelligence lost?"
America has lost her way and there is nobody to point us in the right direction.
Bush has not idea, and Obama is not saying..... humm... I think we can learn a lesson or two from this "intelligent design thing" and start applying it to the world around us... |
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Antisthenes
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you do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around and that's what it's all about : ID
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alittlesensetodesign
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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I see there are still some who resist the knowledge above all knowledge, the intelligence behind all intelligence, the master of the u.n.iverse, the giver of life, the star before all stars, the bright and morning star, the new and morning son, the bread of all life and knowledge, the mystery of the ages, the a.lpha and the o.mega, the ancient of days, the author of life, the beginning and the end, the consuming f.ire, the light of the world, the source of all understanding , the author of s.cience, the in.tell.igent designer behind all design.
We can go all the way from the design of computers to automated design, but the need for a mind to intervene is the ultimate centerpiece of all design efforts. Take it back ultimately to the first organism, as we have in the discussion in the Fireside forum on the Mytocondrial Eve
http://fireside.DesignCommunity.com/topic-20854.html
demonstrating there that blind f.ai.t.hless e.vo.lut.ion.ary processes cannot even account for the single most basic o.rg.ani.sm in existence, among many other incredible pieces of information presented in that post that also demonstrate in.tel.ligent design. (See towards the end of that post for example. And it is right there that you will find that some still do not believe the evidence presented).
| Quote: | The A.n.th.ropic Pri.nciple
The "a.nt.h.ro.pic pri.nciple" refers to the observation that the p.h.y.sical parameters of l.if.e and the u.ni.v.erse are astonishingly well tuned. |
Nor can design simply "design itself" without the intervention of a mind, of a designer, otherwise you have only random chaotic patterns, that as analyzed, may seem to demonstrate patters of design, but in reality only demonstrate the hand of design even behind chaos...... so that even chaos itself follows a pattern of relative predictability at the macro scale level. (Take "fuzzy"technology for example - to benefit from the patterns in chaos, one must understand the information transfer that takes place in fuzzy logic. This information transfer does not generate information gain, but simply using mind over matter to program this transfer into a code that will allow for predictable information gathering and transfer, by micro waves or other technology and by encoding/decoding mechanisms built into the "fuzzy" brain machines which also must be programed).
Even Christopher Alexander, in his book "pattern language" suggests the need for human intervention in these small design decisions, that if properly guided, will begin to create intelligent patterns that will govern the environmental design process, all the way from the micro to the macro level.
When we allow human intervention to shape and mold the habitat we live in, we are ultimately reverting back to our basic d.i.v.ine instinct - the power to create, at least in our minds, new .u.n.i.verses and elements of mental images, of collages of ideas, and we shape and re-shape the physical world around us into the molds and patterns that fit our thinking.
Thus, if some refuses to believe in i.n.t.e.l.l.ige.nt design, he is only shaping his own reality according to the vision he perceives of the universe, as a designer will do when molding and re-shaping the elements. The world and u.n.iv.erse around us is thus the product of what we create in our minds....and our limited understanding of the reality around us can only go as far as our imagination and minds will let us. (And our background, education and so forth).
Can anyone explain how .s.p.ace can be unlimited ? No end to the far reaches of the universe? Where does it end? Where is the furthest star? What comes after that? Emptyness? And how far does this emptyness go on? For ever? Thus, the concept of e.t.e.r.n.ity in the hearts and mind of man.
But now let our minds and spirits soar, and we will find the unlimited boundaries of the world around us are far behind what our little minds are able to grasp.
Let us not attempt to discard what we do not understand now. If some are truly as wise as they believe to be, let them attempt to answer the last riddle and question above. (See the debate on my.to.chondrial eve also for more theories and ideas on this subject of the possible or impossible boundaries of space and time). |
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djswan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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You put your big butt in, you put your big butt out, you put big butt in and you shake it all about.
I can see clear now things are bright.
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Antisthenes
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Bright indeed, isn't naturalism wonderful?
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djswan
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| alittlesensetodesign wrote: |
Nor can design simply "design itself" without the intervention of a mind, of a designer, otherwise you have only random chaotic patterns, that as analyzed, may seem to demonstrate patters of design, but in reality only demonstrate the hand of design even behind chaos...... so that even chaos itself follows a pattern of relative predictability at the macro scale level.
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Choas doesn't exist. That's the beauty of understanding it, and thus your points are moot. A point doesn't exist, talk math.
"the hand of design" What about a rectum of design? Perhaps you need to look from a new perspective. The Universe a big poo pile?
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