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csintexas
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Yes,
| Quote: | | Tell us about it and how it will make our built environment better |
Part of the training is to know how to deal with the client – confidentiality, professionalism and thoroughness in all aspects of personality and business. Feng shui, as practiced over the past few centuries, was (and is) a ‘profession’, not a hobby or side-line. Many feng shui practitioners flout ‘cures’ and a variety of services. I would be wary of any practitioner who has products to sell. The only thing I have for sale is my service as a feng shui consultant.
So far you have done a poor job of informing us.
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SDR
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Intangible cures typically work to the degree that the patient believes they will work. They are worth what the client thinks they are worth.
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SDR
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[For "intangible cures" you may substitute the words "intangible services". . .]
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fengshuiarch
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Dear cs,
The goal of feng shui is to make people’s lives better – not to make the environment better, per se. You can make their home life better and/or their work life better. We do this through the built and natural environment.
What do you want to make better in your life? Better health? Steadier work? Do you want the phone to ring more often? Fewer arguments? A better reputation? Fewer legal issues? Easier decision-making? Then change the environment in which you operate.
We use the same materials that you would use in any development project – architecture, interior design, landscape design, civil engineering, etc. But with feng shui we have a different set of criteria to fulfill.
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fengshuiarch
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Dear Madimel,
It is almost impossible to explain the cause of the problems and their solutions in words. That is why books do such a terrible job explaining feng shui. You would still be asking me how and why.
A simple example from a consultation I did years ago:
Scenario: A homeowner, woman – complained that her relationship was flat and was wondering whether she should continue it. The boyfriend did not live in the house.
Solution: I saw a dying tree in the SE of her house – we were having water restrictions because of a severe drought and people were letting their landscaping die off. I told her to water the tree. She said it was the neighbor’s tree. I told her to water it anyway, it was still affecting her relationship. That was a Saturday. On Tuesday she effused that her relationship had gotten a new spark and she was thrilled.
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SDR
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If there isn't a law prohibiting practice of social counseling without a license, there should be. There are certainly laws regarding fraud.
It is clear, however, that customers can be found for all the pseudo-sciences that exist, and probably some that haven't been contrived yet: "psychic surgery," phrenology, astrology, numerology, etc etc. As long as there is a market, and believers, no amount of regulation will keep these practices from appearing.
Anecdotal evidence is attractive (and cannot be refuted absolutely), and cause and effect cannot be duplicated in any single case (because there is no way to run the experiment twice).
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Richard Haut
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imagine an architect making similar claims for the advantages of using their services ......
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birgco
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First you guys want me to get in touch with my feminine side.
Then someone's talking about Alegra gettin balls,
Now you got something against phrenology?
Come on SDR, what the hell's wrong with phrenology??
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| Quote: | | Scenario: A homeowner, woman – complained that her relationship was flat and was wondering whether she should continue it. The boyfriend did not live in the house. |
This reminds me of a similar relationship problem between a husband and wife but solved in a slightly different, but just as effective manner.
The story goes something like this......
No matter what this husband did in bed, his wife never achieved
an orgasm. They decide to consult their Rabbi. The Rabbi listens
to their story, strokes his beard, and makes the following
suggestion:
"Hire a strapping young man.. While the two of you are making
love have the young man wave a towel over you. That will help
your wife fantasize and should bring on an orgasm."
They go home and follow the Rabbi's advice. They hire a handsome
young man and he waves a towel over them as they make love. It
doesn't help and the wife is still unsatisfied. Perplexed, they
go back to the Rabbi.
"Okay," he says to the husband," try it reversed.. Have the young
man make love to your wife and you wave the towel over them."
Once again they follow the Rabbi's advice. They go home and hire
the same strapping young man. The young man gets into bed with
the wife and the husband waves the towel. The young man gets to
work with great enthusiasm and the wife soon has an enormous
room-shaking, ear-splitting, screaming orgasm.
The husband smiles, looks at the young man and says to him
triumphantly, "You see that, you young schmuck? THAT'S how you
wave a towel!"
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SDR
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| Love it. Humor is good medicine.
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csintexas
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Sure that was funny, but not as funny as the tree watering story. 
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SDR
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I suppose the Great Unknown can be credited with any number of intangible causes and effects. Religions have been bent from their original sources and claims, too. It seems to be the nature of the thing.
Non-denominational preacher Joel Osteen makes a nice living promising prosperity to his listeners. It can only help if you believe it will.
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birgco
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Funny, what funny? I swear that's a true story by the bumps on my head!
(and you should read the nasty emails I received from the NPS
..............National Phrenology Society.) 
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ArchiMotion
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Sheng Fui = Mr. Chang got tired of designing and said "Oh fuey". So we got Sheng Fui.
I think it is easier for some to circumvent a discussion on the subject, when they realize they will be held account for their shenanigans in design.
So better to answer and say "you don't understand the deeps mystics behind my design methodology. This way, they got their basis covered by subscribing their ideas to the mysterious, the unknown, the intangible.
Just give us the answers and cut out the crap.
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Madimel
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| Quote: | | Solution: I saw a dying tree in the SE of her house – we were having water restrictions because of a severe drought and people were letting their landscaping die off. I told her to water the tree. She said it was the neighbor’s tree. I told her to water it anyway, it was still affecting her relationship. That was a Saturday. On Tuesday she effused that her relationship had gotten a new spark and she was thrilled. |
BSArch,
So the dying tree was a FS metaphor for a bad relationship? What I want to know is what kind of water your client used. I've never seen a dying tree revived in just three days of watering. I think you should sell that and the rest of concoction as fertilizer, just not in this forum, it is apparent that no one is buying it.
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