Form Follows Function???..."For once and for all!"

[ArchiMotion]

Nice one SDR -->>

SDR --->>

["We have a need. We create a form that can carry out the function of fulfilling that need.

So: form follows need. function follows form."]

Nice one SDR! We are making progress in demonstrating how there is a forward/reverse relationship between Form and Function. Now we can see we have clearly forever dispelled the myth that "Form Follows Function".

[SDR]

Yes -- I think I like Mr Wilson's rather straight take on the subject. Here is the source of that one:

http://www.designaddict.com/design_addict/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread_show_one/thread_id/6272/

SDR

[ArchiMotion]

Hey, I like this ! It is like everything I am saying, you guys are posting in another forum, without me knowing it! Now am I good at reading thoughts or what ? --->>

Evidence of my being able to read the thoughts of your discussion ---->>(Without ever haven seen it, only now) ---->>

[djswan]

I haven't had my coffee yet to study this further. I need coffee or do I? Needs sound pathetic and small. I like requirements.

Reading the first and last lines helps, thanks for that advise.

How to make a universe. There is more than one way, but here is one.

Take two events and make a pattern. You now have a two dimensions x(y), and a place for form to exist. Functions are the varibles. Form is the outcome. You need input to have outcome.

Add a zenith and you get Earth, Wind and Fire. and gravity as the pull back from the zenith event and time is the markings of it's trail.

Will an astro physicist please take the stage and a poet. Am I close?

[csintexas]

I don't think anyone has seriously disputed the Chicken and egg question since genetics became widely understood.

Ever since two or more molecules came together and formed life or for religious people, since God created the first life form, the egg has come first. In the original creation nothing proceeded it.

A need is a function in my way of thinking. The need to grind coffee is a function only unrealized without some means to grind it.

I can see that anyone making this distinction between need and function would have trouble comprehending FFF. Function is the things we need something to do.

(This is where our brains come in handy.)

We need a car to get good gas mileage because we realize that we have a limited supply of oil. We don't design a car that by accident gets good gas mileage and then realize "hey, this will be a good function, what a fortunate accident"

[ArchiMotion]

The way I see it is that there is a need, and the function of the building is to serve that need. Therefore, function serves need, so need takes precedence.

Therefore, we have need first --->> The need generates a desired function, to satisfy the human need ---->>> This function generates a Form to satisfy that need, and to serve a function. When that need is no longer present, and thus the function changes, such as a changing use of a building, the form now serves a new function. This new function must conform to the pre-established form, or the needs will not be met. So this demonstrates how there is a complete inter-dependency between Need - Function - Form, not a sequential relationship. This again dispels the myth that form follows function.

[djswan]

I thought you "folks" told me a problem was #1, now it's a need, let me guess tommorrow it's power and you want more of it.

and form follows function.

[ArchiMotion]

How is a "problem" formulated in design? One considers the needs, the project goals, the aspirations, and of course, if you are designing for a Dubai Shake, the "Power" desired. If they want more of it, you need to incorporate this into your new needs, and achieve a form that will serve this function as well -->> to give them more power and prestige.

Give me power, I want more of it.

[djswan]

I would highly suggest you search that topic out for yourself on this wonderful forum. You find your birds of feather.

[ArchiMotion]

Thanks for the suggestion.

More power to ya.

[djswan]

as to you.

[WorldDesigner]

[djswan]

That for me to know and you to find out. I did, and I only share with friends.

Good luck on your quest or is it test?

[ArchiMotion]

Hey djswan, those are some interesting questions. It would be nice to see your opinion on those, if you actually have one. Or, from what I understand, you are more of a poet and not actually into trying to explain things?

I am somewhat of a poet as well, beyond my enjoying research and writing, as you can see.

[djswan]

What's an ArchiMotion? are you good at dancing or something?

My questions are better than your questions