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patrickm

Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 347 Location: santa barbara, ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:01 am Post subject: Repair? |
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Under PC7, using WT's "new tools", there was a tool called "repair" that I could use to eliminate duplicate objects. I could have sworn this was built into PC8/WT9, but when I went to use it yesterday, I couldn't find it. Can anyone point me in the right direction to find it or was I just hallucinating and it isn't part of PC8/WT9? (I couldn't find it in the WT manual and my PC manual is at home.)
thanks,
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patrickm

Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 347 Location: santa barbara, ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Well, I checked my manual and what I was looking for is now called Verify Drawing, under the Tools menu... In the manual, it was called Cleanup Drawing -- I just found out the name changed in v8.06.
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Peter Severin Carlsen
Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 84 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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I once heard a lecture by one of the hot LA architects, who went on and on about wanting to create a "new language" for his architecture. It all sounded very, very intellectual, until you realize that a language only spoken by only one, is more of an excuse for why nobody gets it than a way of being understood.
Directness and use of simple words works best if your goal is to communicate rather than hide something. "Clean up drawing" is something I'd want to do. "Verifying a drawing." sounds like making sure it is real or the underlying code is all in order.
Perhaps Alfred Scott and the guys at Engineered Software have fallen into the game of calling old understood words like "exit," found in the code as "means of egress door." There seems to be a modern sickness of trying to sound more important, or more precise by using three words where one used to work.
But maybe "verify" is just one of those southern terms which meaning hasn't reached us in the great frozen north. _________________ Peter Carlsen |
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Alfred Scott

Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 661 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Your mind is the second thing that goes....
Years ago I did have something called Repair that looked for and fixed out of range thingies and problem objects, but that hasn't been even needed for a long, long time. Anyway, it was never in the PC7/WT8 version.
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GaryV
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 238 Location: Walnut Creek, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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His only error in the question was that it was not a WT. The other comments are accurate (altho I do not own 8 so I cannot confirm that). "Clean up drawing" is a command in PC7.
In general, I too wonder about the need to change things that ain't broke. |
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patrickm

Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 347 Location: santa barbara, ca
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| The main reason that I like to Repair (oops, I mean Verify) my drawings is that I occasionally duplicate an object, intending to move the duplicated item to someplace else, the phone rings and I answer it, etc, then when I get back to the drawing, I duplicate an object, intending to move the duplicated item to someplace else, the phone rings and I answer it, etc, etc. I use Repair to cleanup these inadvertent duplicate objects (mainly because they visually bug me on the screen -- the overlapping objects look slightly different that non-overlapping objects). |
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poolvibe

Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 349 Location: My Lair
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| patrickm wrote: | | The main reason that I like to Repair (oops, I mean Verify) my drawings is that I occasionally duplicate an object, intending to move the duplicated item to someplace else, the phone rings and I answer it, etc, then when I get back to the drawing, I duplicate an object, intending to move the duplicated item to someplace else, the phone rings and I answer it, etc, etc. I use Repair to cleanup these inadvertent duplicate objects (mainly because they visually bug me on the screen -- the overlapping objects look slightly different that non-overlapping objects). |
Ah yes, the burden of WUSIWUG...... _________________ www.shouldbefree.net |
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Matt
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 450 Location: Sterling, Virginia
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| I think the fact that PowerCADD renders duplicated objects the way it does is fabulous. Lines over lines are never my friend, and PowerCADD let's me know when I'm dealing with that. |
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jasonlocher

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 634 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: |
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how do you select the line that is beneath a line?
In austocad you hold down the option key and it toggles thru all lines that are overlapping within the aperture.... this would be a very helpful feature. |
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arch_steve_9
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: words |
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Peter wrote:
"There seems to be a modern sickness of trying to sound more important, or more precise by using three words where one used to work. "
I agree. My pet peeve wording is "pre-existing". How can something exist before it exists? |
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MikeCharek
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 165
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | My pet peeve wording is "pre-existing". How can something exist before it exists? |
Kind of like my favorite from the recent past: "pre-positioning", as in moving assets into place in advance of something (hurricane, disaster, what-have-you) happening.
How do you position something before it's positioned? |
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oldguy_longley
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Liverpool, NS Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| pre-plan - isn't that what planning is all about in the first place - figuring out the step *before hand*. What would be the point of post-planning (unless, of course, you want to make sure "another" horse does not get out of the barn after the first one has left?) |
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patrickm

Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 347 Location: santa barbara, ca
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| oldguy_longley wrote: | | pre-plan - isn't that what planning is all about in the first place - figuring out the step *before hand*. What would be the point of post-planning (unless, of course, you want to make sure "another" horse does not get out of the barn after the first one has left?) |
I thought pre-planning was when you got a cup of coffee and psyched up to do real work. All of this reminds me of George Carlin's piece about "hot water heater", flammable/inflammable, oriented/orientated, etc. |
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