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JVB



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:58 am    Post subject: Client question Reply with quoteFind all posts by JVB

I'm looking into the possibility of using an architect and have some question. I'd appreciate any help I could get.

1. I bought some land and would like to build on it. But, I can't afford to build the house that I will eventually want. However, I want something put out there now so we can enjoy the land. Can an architect design a structure that can be buit in stages?

2. How do architects charge - by the hour or on a fixed cost basis?

3. The land is in the Texas Hill Country and I like the Texas Ranch vernacular of limestone walls, tin roofs, and wood accents. But, I also want a more modern, imaginative use of those materials. Does anyone know of a web site that has examples of houses built with these materials?

Thanks in advance.
James
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Donald



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

You wrote:
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1. I bought some land and would like to build on it. But, I can't afford to build the house that I will eventually want. However, I want something put out there now so we can enjoy the land. Can an architect design a structure that can be buit in stages?


Answer: Yes you can build in phases. The last one I did like this was a lake home and the owner built a garage with living above it first and then added his home later as funds were available.

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2. How do architects charge - by the hour or on a fixed cost basis?


Answer: For house design it is usually by % of Construction Costs. For example, IF you want a $100,000 home construction cost, most architects would charge you in the range of $8 - $10,000...for custom home design and a set of construction documents. Some may be more, some less depending on their work load and experience.

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3. The land is in the Texas Hill Country and I like the Texas Ranch vernacular of limestone walls, tin roofs, and wood accents. But, I also want a more modern, imaginative use of those materials. Does anyone know of a web site that has examples of houses built with these materials?

Answer: Here is a web list of Texas Firms...some may have that image you are looking for: http://www.buildingtradesdir.com/architecture/texas/texas.html

http://www.usarchitecture.com/By_the_State/Texas/Architects/residential.htm

Hope this helps.
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Donald



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

I also wanted to mention this, you wrote:

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But, I also want a more modern, imaginative use of those materials.



If its more modern, and imaginative you are looking for, TAFT Architects out of Houston is well known for their work in Texas:
http://www.taftarchitects.com/

They will be higher I suspect, with their fees.
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JVB



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by JVB

Thanks Donald.

If an architect designs a plan to be built in stages, how would they bill based on construction costs? As a percentage of the estimated construction costs, or would they then go to a per hour rate?

Also, based on a 10% of total costs basis, what should a client expect? I am assuming at least 1 or 2 site visits prior to starting work on the design? How many face-to-face visits during the planning process? How mant changes after the design process? What sort of services will the architect provide after the design has been signed off on and construction has begun?

Thanks for all your help. It's been very useful.

James
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by ArchBrowser

Hi,

Hourly Billing: The hourly billing method is flexible and extremely responsive to client’s need. It is often used in an assignment where the extent of services or scope of work could not be determined at the outset.

Types of works usually require hourly billing method are renovations, small, or administrative services – such as giving professional advice.

The hourly charges can vary from one firm to another. A recent graduate architect may command a much lower fee than someone who is better known or a more experienced practitioner.

One of the disadvantages of this method is that the client has not the slightest idea of how much he or she has to pay the architect. As such, some clients would impose a “not-to-exceed” limit, which may sometimes affect the architect’s profit margins.
Note: Engineering fee is not covered in this type of fee.

Percentage Based: Percentage based fee basis is very much affected by construction market conditions. If the construction cost goes up at the end of the project, the architect’s fee will follow suit and vice-versa - the fee is proportionate to the construction cost.

Every design decision that architect makes, will have a cost implication to the whole project. As such, there are times where a client is lead to believe that there is no disincentive for the architect to keep the construction cost within budget. Here is where professional integrity and ethics come into play.

Note: Engineering and other fees are likely to be included.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by ArchBrowser

Hi,

Hourly Billing: The hourly billing method is flexible and extremely responsive to client’s need. It is often used in an assignment where the extent of services or scope of work could not be determined at the outset.

Types of works usually require hourly billing method are renovations, small, or administrative services – such as giving professional advice.

The hourly charges can vary from one firm to another. A recent graduate architect may command a much lower fee than someone who is better known or a more experienced practitioner.

One of the disadvantages of this method is that the client has not the slightest idea of how much he or she has to pay the architect. As such, some clients would impose a “not-to-exceed” limit, which may sometimes affect the architect’s profit margins.
Note: Engineering fee is not covered in this type of fee.

Percentage Based: Percentage based fee basis is very much affected by construction market conditions. If the construction cost goes up at the end of the project, the architect’s fee will follow suit and vice-versa - the fee is proportionate to the construction cost.

Every design decision that architect makes, will have a cost implication to the whole project. As such, there are times where a client is lead to believe that there is no disincentive for the architect to keep the construction cost within budget. Here is where professional integrity and ethics come into play.

Note: Engineering and other fees are likely to be included.

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Donald



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Donald

To answer this question:
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If an architect designs a plan to be built in stages, how would they bill based on construction costs? As a percentage of the estimated construction costs, or would they then go to a per hour rate?


IF you design the entire home, and phase it for construction, the architect would be paid for the entire house design. This would be based on a contractual amount either fixed fee, hourly rate (maximum not to exceed) or a % of the construction cost of the project. Your contract with the architect should spell this out. The cost of construction is based on what you intend to spend from the beginning on the construction only. In other words, you set a budget for construction and the architect should design to that budget.

IF you design only a portion of the house and leave the rest of the house design for later, then the same rates apply to the phased design portion only. Again, it needs to be spelled out in your Owner/Architect contract.

Stay away from per hour rates, as this could lead to services you didn't want to pay for during an early phase of design...and the unknown efforts of the architect could result in a surprising overcharging of invoices if its not clear up front what you are paying for. Again, you need to spell out exactly what you want and what your Budget is...project Budget (all costs included) and Construction Budget, (only the cost to build the house)

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what should a client expect?

You can expect only what is written in your Owner/Architect contract. If you, the owner progresses along with design and then continues to make changes, expect to pay for some of those changes as add services if they get out of hand. Meetings, Program Verification, Budgets, Schedules, =Design Services, Construction Administrative (CA) services and others should all be identified in your Owner/Architect contract. Some Architects charge hourly (as needed) for CA services, as they can take up as much time as the design phase services. You can determine what you want and insist that the architect either include or not include what services it is you want to include in your agreement.

What an architect should not do is let an owner take advantage of abusing their services and expect to give away services if they become unrealistic. Be open upfront, set the contract terms and be as definitive as much as possible before you go to work with your selected architect. Very Happy
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