U.S. use of depleted uranium ammunition in Iraq

[Richard Haut]

"The Hype".....California style:

http://www.sfbayview.com/012605/headsroll012605.shtml

[Donald]

Considering the tons of depleted uranium used by the U.S., the Iraq war can truly be called a nuclear war...

If you believe this RH, I have lost all confidence in your logic and reasoning....this is a first for you and considering the news source, I can understand why....and for you, its the other side of the pond factor. Coming from SDR would have been more expected.

So be aware of the protesters of yesteryear, the Sixties radicals of San Francisco. Oh, the clothes and the hair and the music may have changed, but not what is in their hearts and in their heads. These people don't believe America is a liberating force. Instead, they see America as an occupier, a military empire trying to colonize people.

They see any who would ally themselves with America as corrupt puppets or hired mercenaries. The "coerced and the bribed," as JK has described them. For every world problem, this crowd always blames America first. They see despotic regimes as nuisances not as threats. And, dictators are always given every benefit of the doubt.

They don't believe there is any great threat requiring military action. They believe that military force has never solved anything, and that if it did, it shouldn't have.

Doubt that this would have even made the - probable racist slur - award last night

[Richard Haut]

The use of depleted uranium is openly acknowledged by your administration and military.

It is (like so many of your other weapons) a Nazi invention.

Speer's defence about the Nazis having tried to produce a nuclear weapon was that the radioactive material was in fact used to produce armour piercing shells containing depleted uranium.

It is for other Americans to consider why you, as an American, are happy that your own military personnel should suffer death or permanent disability because of the deliberate mass-use of a bio-terrorist weapon by America.

[Donald]

You need to take your medication again RH... your historical rhetoric and hallucinous remarks are fictitious at best and make no sense at all with regard to the post.... But coming from a disgruntled European Brit. who has to put up in living with frogs, I can understand your situation.... and it doesn't sound good.

[Richard Haut]

your insolence does not alter the fact that your government and military openly acknowledge the use of depleted uranium.

as for "living with frogs", you seem to be falling over your own feet in trying to insult everybody at the same time.

however in this instance you have failed to notice that the people most directly concerned (aside of the unfortunate Iraqis or Afghanis) are Americans.

[Kevin]

Donald, please see:

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/topic-4204.html

[Donald]

Another reply for the administrator's review (excuse me sir, may I have another), after a clear reading of your posting this afternoon KM:

Yes RH, you are correct. We have to live with our decision to be the worlds peacemaker, whether it be Iraqi freedom or the French on the run. I agree. We have failed to notice the other nations that might not be in as deep a hurt as the ones we help out the most, but we are concerned. I guess we cannot be everywhere everytime..that is the role of the UN I thought.

Speaking of the UN, did you read about how Kofi Anon helped in aiding the Rowandans? Nearly a million people were slaughtered in the genocide in Rwanda 10 years ago...and you may be more than a little bit surprised to know that UN Secretary-General Kofi Anna had a little something to do with it. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/jm20050301.shtml

[Kevin]

Another very thin piece of UN bashing from a very partisan source - part of an ongoing right-wing campaign to divert attention - has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

[Richard Haut]

depleted-uranium-for-freedom .....

no, Donald, I don't really think so.

if Bush's America was genuinely interested in freedom, why the abuse, why the lies, why the barbarity, why the "rebranding" of napalm ?

Americans have no more been welcomed as liberators in Iraq than the British were in the 1920's - and for the same reason.

sure you held a sort of an election - and an Iranian told the majority to vote, and how to vote, and they did.

[Donald]

[Snotty part without content redacted - Mod.]

[Richard Haut]

1. Al-Sistani

2. it has been announced that the country most at risk of now becoming a terrorist haven is Afghanistan - so what's it all for ?

[Donald]

Snotty! Redaction! Lies and barbarity! Some folks don't realize that there were and there still are many --- not a few, but MANY Bush-haters who find themselves increasingly depressed with every breath of freedom that emanates from the Middle East? Some are now near suicidal....and after elections are announced in Egypt, and when women get to vote in Saudi Arabia, and after the Syrian puppet government in Lebanon fails, the Iranian Mullahs will be running for cover....and thank you to Al-Sistani!

Its now Syria that is surrounded by Turkey to the north, Iraq and Lebanon....they will not escape the freedom of democracy....all in all without the claims of "rebranding" or the use of napalm?

[Architorture]

why is it being made out here that depleted uranium is something that was just started to be used in 2001??? the entire persian gulf war was fought with depleted uranium munitions...

i just don't agree with trying to characterize this as some how being exclusively related to bush or current US policy in the middle east

[Richard Haut]

Family business - Bush Grandfather, Father and Son.

(Grandfather ? Yup, Prescott - his buddies the Nazis developed the use of depleted uranium, Daddy Bush had it sprayed over the Middle East and other places, affecting US troops as well as causing cancers in children, and Baby Bush, knowing all that, carried on the tradition).

[Architorture]

now you are making it even more ridiculous...

the munitions and armourment weren't even developed under bush sr and whatever connection you claim there is b/w the bushes and the nazis whatever that relationship was probably had very little influence on the development of the weapons in the united states...

considering that heavy artillery and tank warfare were pretty much considered a thing of the past after world war 2 when all eyes turned to developing airforces and missle systems...

the first US weapons to have uranium armour were the abrams tanks that didn't see any kind of warfare until the persian gulf...a very long time removed from the nazis